Jordan Peterson -The Unconscious Mind of The SJW



Jordan Peterson -The Unconscious Mind of The SJW
Jordan Peterson -The Unconscious Mind of The SJW
original source: https://youtu.be/R_GPAl_q2QQ?t=2h33m1s Psychology Professor Dr. Jordan B. Peterson makes a psychoanalytical / Freudian hypothesis on the unconscious desires of the SJW. Could it be that as masculinity is getting more and more eradicated out of western society, the longing for dominance and hyper masculinity grows even in those who argue for equality and call for the removal of 'toxic masculinity'? Make sure to subscribe to his channel, too! https://www.youtube.com/user/JordanPetersonVideos If you want to support Dr. Peterson, here is his Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/jordanbpeterson Check out Jordan Peterson's Self Authoring Program, a powerful tool to sort yourself out: http://bit.ly/selfAuth (Official affiliate link for Bite-sized Philosophy)


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  • TL;DR: Feminism in the west is one giant, society wide shit test that western men have collectively failed, over and over and over again. For those unfamiliar with Pick Up Artist parlance, a shit test is believed to be: A manufactured grievance a woman uses to test the mettle, competence and confidence of her mate. It is an intentional provocation accompanied by an implicit and subconscious desire that the man put his foot down, set reasonable boundaries and demonstrate that he will not be bullied, nagged, shamed or guilted into submission. Its purpose is to confirm for her that he is capable of doing what needs to be done to provide for and protect her and her children. The subconscious thought process is, "If he can't stand up to _me,_ how will he be able to deal with the cavemen down the valley who keep us up all night revving their motorcycles, let alone help bring down a mastodon or fend off the sabre toothed tigers?" According to PUAs, the worst thing a man can do when his woman is shit testing him is assume the grievance is genuine and cave in to her. Despite her seeming demand that he submit, if he does, she will lose respect for him, and once she loses respect for him she will believe that she's with a man who is not worthy of her, which in turn makes her angry and resentful of him. She will then escalate the tests, each grievance becoming more and more outrageous and irrational in a desperate bid for him to finally draw a line and say, "this far, no further." I have to admit, as I have in the past, that the last 50 years or so of feminism in the west have followed this pattern. :/
  • "And thus postmodernism as a widespread leading-edge viewpoint slid into its extreme forms (e.g., not just that all knowledge is context-bound, but that all knowledge is nothing but shifting contexts; or not just that all knowledge is co-created with the knower and various intrinsic, subsisting features of the known, but that all knowledge is nothing but a fabricated social construction driven only by power). When it becomes not just that all individuals have the right to choose their own values (as long as they don’t harm others), but that hence there is nothing universal in (or held-in-common by) any values at all, this leads straight to axiological nihilism: there are no believable, real values anywhere. And when all truth is a cultural fiction, then there simply is no truth at all—epistemic and ontic nihilism. And when there are no binding moral norms anywhere, there’s only normative nihilism. Nihilism upon nihilism upon nihilism—“there was no depth anywhere, only surface, surface, surface.” And finally, when there are no binding guidelines for individual behavior, the individual has only his or her own self-promoting wants and desires to answer to—in short, narcissism. And that is why the most influential postmodern elites ended up embracing, explicitly or implicitly, that tag team from postmodern hell: nihilism and narcissism—in short, aperspectival madness. The culture of post-truth." - Ken Wilber
  • The God machine is hungry for individualism and ripe brains. The skull farmers do their rain dance and pray the machine falls to sleep. She holds me close and whispers wet, "there are cannibals among us". Mad in love with dry dead boys in the backs of abandoned cars. Smoking the bones of children, plotting the murder of love.
  • Islamists vote liberal because they know abortion, destruction of the family etc.. are destroying the West. So they want the West to choke on its sins.
  • Ha this is what I was saying in the pub yesterday :D women want powerful men. Always.
  • Women in islam 'Men are the protectors of women because Allah has given the one more strength... And because they support them from their means'. Quran Surah 4:33 Women have more right in Islam which I learn from. At the time of marriage, a woman is entitled to a financial gift (dowry) from her husband. This dowry is legally owned by her and cannot be used by anyone else. In the case of divorce, she has the right to keep whatever she owned before the divorce and anything she personally earned after marriage. The former husband has no right whatsoever to any of her belongings. This ensures a woman’s financial security and independence, allowing her to support herself in the case of divorce. Google it don't believe here say and there say! Muhammad Ali Compares Women Wearing Scarfs to American Women https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NTgT-HyrE6s Do Islamic Terrorists really get 72 Virgins? False Hadith https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R-AGLuV351g Lesley Hazleton: "Prophet Muhammad [s]: Where did Humanity Go Wrong?" https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2-hTxDvRVlo You shall not murder. Exodus 20:13 “Whoever kills a person [unjustly]…it is as though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he had saved all mankind.” (Qur’an, 5:32) For everything there is a season, and a time for every matter under heaven: a time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant and a time to pluck up what is planted. Ecclesiastes 3: 1-4 'When their time....arrives they cannot tarry for a single hour nor can they go ahead'. Al Quran Surah 16:61 A sincere Christian and a Jew are those of your brothers in Faith. Muslim's Believe. 'What will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses his soul' Christianity Mathew 16:26 Your Body is a Temple: 1 Corinthian 6:19 (My interpretation: Eat junk food be junky alike, eat healthy food be Wealthy alike.) We Muslims don't call ourself, we are Mohamadism! But Muslim in Arabic = Meaning He who submit & believes! Just like God in Hebrew is Elohim and in Aramaic is Ela and also in Arabic is Allah. Elohim, Ela and Allah sound the same to me! Muslim's believe in the Torah Tenakh Gospel and the Al Quran. What do Muslim say about Mary and the Jews & Christian God sent the Angel to Mary and said " O Mary indeed Allah has chosen you and purified you and be devoutly obedient to your lord and prostrate and bow with those who bow in prayer . O Mary indeed Allah give you the Messiah Jesus (PBUH). He will speak to the people in the cradle and in maturity and will be of the righteous". She said "My lord how will i have a child when no man has touched me". "When he (Allah) decrees a matter He only says to it BE and it will Be, He will (Jesus) teach him writing and Wisdom and the Torah and Gospel". Surah Ali Imran 3:42 AL QURAN Lesley Hazleton: "Prophet Muhammad [s]: Where did Humanity Go Wrong?" https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2-hTxDvRVlo Russian Christian priest about Islam https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E_1oRMeumP4 For Those Who Hate Islam - Message From Christian Sister https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SqNzxtcRIMs Catholic Priest Converts To Islam, Says It's Religion Of Peace. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Chrb1PZrFl4 The enemy of faith call Jews, Jews because that they were from Jerusalem, and Christians because they followed christ. For Those Who Hate Islam - Message From Christian Sister https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SqNzxtcRIMs O mankind, We have created you from a male and a female and have made you into nations and tribes for you to know one another.  Truly, the noblest of you with God is the most pious.2  Truly, God is All-Knowing, All-Aware.  (Quran, 49:13) Islam rejects certain individuals or nations being favored because of their wealth, power, or race.  God created human beings as equals who are to be distinguished from each other only on the basis of their faith and piety.    The Prophet Muhammad  said: {O people!  Your God is one and your forefather (Adam) is one.  An Arab is not better than a non-Arab and a non-Arab is not better than an Arab, and a white person is not better than a black person and a black person is not better than a white person,except in piety.}
  • Dr. Jordan Peterson should rewatch his other video talking about women being more successful in society (especially education, and then economics) because they are more agreeable, and therefore more obedient.  This means that the young women are more susceptible to indoctrination than are the young men.  This explains why they are more female SJWs irrelevant to the big5 personality traits. Just another instance of import in the symbiotic relationship between men and women which enables the existence of society.  In this case, the women are needing the men to do their part for the species; stop the societal indoctrination because that is in fact a weak point for women, from a general psychological perspective.
  • Jordan Peterson is a social injustice warrior (SIW).
  • Women want to live WITH masculinity, not under it. I do not desire complete dominance; I will fight back until I have a foot to stand on.
  • Oh what a dipshit, contradicts his we don't know what women with power are like statement with, oh yeah sure they have had immense power before but that's different because it ruins my circle jerk logic.
  • xD WTF did I just here!!! ahahahah. "We don't know what women are like when they have political power." ahahahahahah. He must have done *ZERO* classes in history and never lived anywhere.
  • xD This guy is such a clown. 3:00 "I do think that the rebellious tendency of adolescents is associated both that criminality spike, especially among men, and with creativity." Uhhhh, you fucking think? *inserts yaDon'tSay.jpg*
  • I have to partially disagree with JP here. We can observe how a female dominated Govt and body politic operates as it's occurring in a few countries in Europe already. More of the same egalitarianism but on steroids. Consider the calls by those countries in their virtuous signaling to the world that they have open boarders and look at the literal 3rd world flood. See this is why a lot of conservative people laugh at a lot of the pointy headed liberal nonsense. Where'd your common sense go liberals?Biologically we work slightly differently, is it not obvious why virtually no female lead Govt or societies have ever existed? It's not a brain or mental capacity thing, it's how we analyze the world differently and any society that put forth the idea women should be warriors first and foremost would not last.
  • He says a female dominated political structure would be about equal distribution. So what about communism which was mainly constructed and run by men?
  • Women are so fucking broken it's time we took them off the shelves.
  • I admire how he can talk about thoughts and theories that come into his mind that he doesn't really agree with. That's such an important thing that I don't think enough people acknowledge - you can have ideas and explore points of view that are entirely against your own, and it doesn't have to mean that you actually believe it or give up your own belief.
  • We DO know what the weaker sex is like when they have political power, if we pay attention to some of the words of our forebears. Some Roman scholar or other wrote something like "Make women your equal, and she will become your master." And then society will collapse, because they AREN'T equal to men. Men are superior by just about every metric, so the only way to feign equality is by bringing men down.
  • Feminists needs a holiday in Arabia
  • Too many euphemisms. There.
  • Interesting video, but I think a person can have some unconscious desires for a primitive lifestyle that is ultimately unhealthy. It doesn't necessarily nullify their conscious declarations of what they think is good for themselves and society. I'm not an ardent feminist, but just because one can point to some of their contradictions doesn't make all their arguments invalid. If a man says he wants a strong emotional and intellectual connection with a woman, it doesn't mean that his occasional desire for physical gratification/sex means he was lying or disingenuous.
  • the unconscious is one of the great intellectual frauds of the 20th century, that has unfortunately carried over to the 21st century. It posits an existence that cannot be refuted, and therefore cannot be proven ever. It more resembles a religious dogma and then any other statement to emerge from psychology.
  • SJW? what's that mean?
  • ever heard the story of the female concentration camp guards?
  • If women cry, complain, or get bitchy they can just blame it on hormones and they get a free pass. If I say my hormones make me horny and aggressive I'm still expected to control them.
  • Lack of facing, penetrating, clarifying and resolving apparent paradoxes seems, to me, manifest in the alliance of western so-called feminists with Islamists. The Islamists have no trouble with having 'useful idiots’: their thinking has not even reached the stage of desiring egality and they are ‘way behind the feminists seeking fairness, so no paradox for them. 'Feminists' may actually care about fairness, and then find themselves with an apparent paradox, or several, that they cannot sort out, so they plough on trying not to look (and for some it may be much easier to point the finger ‘out there’ than figure out “Why do I expect others to be able to do something about themselves when I have so much pride/grasping, hatred/fear of inadequacy, egocentricity/self-blinding and do not know what to do about it?”) One example of an apparent paradox anyone may encounter has some fame as "Popper's paradox" on tolerance; it is only 'paradoxical' from the perspective of language and outer appearance — “How is my ‘logical’ image, folks?” — but can be very confusing if vanity is caught up in the mix, and/or the 'sufferer' cannot see a) their questions beneath the apparent ‘paradox' (not only 1: the outer question, but 2: the fearful question this evokes in me, and 3: the question/answer at first hidden and which I will have to poke around to uncover of why this is a question to my mind), b) how to do something about ones own sh-t, which incidentally will give one some insight elsewhere.
  • I don't think today's young western SJW women desire dominance as much as their culture has self loathing as its core. So the attraction is that of the "other" something that says they don't want to aid their own inherited culture, which they see as evil incarnate.
  • Just the way he speak and the way you can hear how he thinks, it's just amazing love him
  • Was there ever a conscious mind of the SJW?
  • @6:11 _" Why aren't feminists protesting non-stop about saudi Arabia ?"_ A better question would be - why isn't everybody protesting non-stop about saudi Arabia ? Why are western Govts silent ? 15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudis and yet the American govt convinced it's people that SA is an ally in the war against terror. Saudi Arabia is the biggest sponsor of Sunni wahabbi terrorism in the world .
  • It's dangerous. Women are crazy, men are stupid!
  • Feminist does not mean woman. Most feminists are men. You should know this.
  • Fact#1, most SJWs are NOT women. They are college boys and washed up professors who have no testosterone left. Fact#2, women are more conservative than men, especially after they become mothers. Women are more likely to be religious, to obey the law, to control to some extent who their children interact with, what they eat, their manners, etc. Mr.Peterson should know this. But he is a Canadian academic so I'll give him a pass. He wouldn't know a conservative if she bit him.
  • He keeps sidlining into this discussion about men and women and didn't answer the questions. Am I missing something? What the hell does social justice have to do with 50 Shades of Gray? I think he's overreached the edges of his thinking a bit.
  • SJW's being mostly women can be explained this way... Maximum self gratification with least self sacrifice...
  • Roughly speaking
  • This man is the absolute genius I've been looking for all my life
  • making sure everyone has enough is what we need to be doing and what we have failed to do so far so lets hope that the rise of women in politics can do this, queens, Thatcher, Clinton and May have rather disproved this idea so far! Listening to this guy reminds me what bullshit sounds like.
  • Slapped my lady after watching this yesterday. It helped. Got the best bj last night! Thanks professor
  • For some people, having it all is never enough; just one fake crisis after another, to no end.
  • Bullshit philosophy on the way...WTF is SJW meaning? Its complete bullshit to talk about a so called group of people, without fixed ideology. Nobody calls himself SJW, so its complete subjective who is SJW and who is not. For an alt right idiot maybe everyone who's not racist is an SJW. For me as an more or less radical left, SJW's are idiots i laught about, because they are so fanatic, that they complete destroyed every bridge to the "real world". For these people themselves, they are progressive and on the right way. To cut it short, its a full on nonsense word, and the from me highly respected J.Peterson shouldnt use words like these...
  • I propose psychologists should test how are sjw's doing in less populated areas vs highly populated areas. Maybe it's more about the fences people put around themselves when living in urban environments, and so they feel there's nowhere to go or anything to discover.
  • Muslims = Brown people, brown people a minority in their minds, to criticize brown people's religion = you're a racist. Pretty easy really.
  • "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
  • Also... kindly disabuse yourself of the notion that, "Every bad woman, esp. one who will screw over their partner" is "a feminist." Some are just bitches and cunts, really. "Feminism", in those cases, has little to do w/ it
  • Esp. that eerie brand of oftentimes-misogynistic dudebro who calls himself, "MGTOW" or is "redpilled on women" and pretends as though, "All women are super-feminist predators who will screw you over at every opportunity, so don't you DARE take a chance by getting into a relationship with one." Yeah... kindly fuck off w/ your pseudoscientific, anecdotal bullshit, ok? I'm sorry that you were supposedly 'mistreated by women' "all your life" (assuming "every woman" treats you like shit) but... maybe some of that is that you're actually just a shitty person deep down? Of course, a person RARELY admits, "I suck", except when they're at the end of their rope, so it's likely you haven't figured this out. I'm under ZERO DELUSIONS that "every person within the MRM, MGTOW and/or PUA communities is just an innocent, charming, nice man who is being denied great opportunities with women because.... reasons!" How stupid do you think we are?? Yes, some of you are probably very-self-entitled douchebags, not gonna lie. I'm not even a feminist or 'SJW', tbh, but I find a lot of the opposition's "arguments" to oftentimes be *just as wanting and absurd*. Also... IS there any 'definitive proof' that we can "hone in" on this so-called "unconscious mind" to any reasonable extent? How do we know FOR SURE that it "dictates" so much of what we supposedly do or 'secretly desire'? I mean, I suppose there's probably *a sliver* of what could be called an 'unconscious' or 'subconscious' mind, but, given the fact that it's *hidden deep down within our psyches*, surely "discovering it" is next to impossible, right? And it's not like "every" credible psychologist or psychological expert agrees to what extent the subconscious or unconscious "exists", let alone "dictates" anyone's desires. To my knowledge, even this notion of "projection" that's floated around a lot in political discussion is far from "totally confirmed." It's POSSIBLE, I suppose, but... the empirical research doesn't have a lot of evidence or support for the theory, it seems. Or, at the very least, it hasn't been well-tested in studies. Interesting theory, but... maybe oversimplifies things, in the long run. Also, it kind of seems to me that a lot of antifeminists and anti-SJWs are claiming that, "Feminists secretly prefer dominance and dominant men" as another way to "delegitimize" the other side w/o actually responding or considering any argument of theirs.
  • And cue the sexist- though they'll never admit it- assholes masquerading as "anti-SJWs/skeptics just in search of the truth" claiming that, "Feminists and female SJW, if not all women, just want a strong man in their life, desire to be raped or forced into sex and/or fetishize masculinity and dominance"- the same kind of ridiculous armchair psychoanalysis that's so prevalent in Western politics and political discussion today. *sigh*
  • I don't give a shit what anyone thinks about Peterson. I RESPECT his courage to share his thoughts before he's fully formulated or processed them.
  • Look: has there been any statistical analysis of the assertion that feminists appear to fail to condemn sexism in Saudi? I think the assertion contains following holes: 1) Statements by radical feminists about Saudi get media prominence because a) Rad.fems are louder, and draw more media coverage, and b) it's a shocking and controversial statement, that simply confirms some (eg "alt-right") dislikes of feminism generally. 2) Likely most "ordinary' feminists are more concerned with issues at home, and when some of them condemn Saudi inequality, no-one notices anyway. That would completely skew the stats, and expose the assertion as a partisan generalisation without statistical basis. Much as I like Prof.Peterson ;)
  • I am a real woman...not a fake fuck but a chick with a vav...I will be the first to say I love porn, and anyone who says they don't like porn is a liar
  • Feminism is about respect... there's a fine line between dominance and abuse, and respect is a large part of that. Feminism for a lot of people has nothing to do with socialistic societies, why the over-generalizations? Lol yes means yes, no means no, feminists don't have a secret hidden desire for male dominance, mainly because the two aren't as connected as some people might think

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